What is MGTOW?

The conflation between the two is quite on purpose mate.

Very accurate description.

Most MGTOW are made by relationships with women, it would be hard for them to be incels.

They try to shame with the question "Who hurt you?" while calling you an incel, well by that definition, no one has hurt you.

Their lack of consistency is evidence of their attempt at manipulation.

@tarknan: You make some very good points. Though an incel could be hurt by a woman, most men who go their own way do so because of negative experiences in relatonships.

@tarknan: Uhm. No. I assumed you met sexual relations. I know TFM, Sandman, and myself too in High School was claim as raping some bitch. They were lies obviously, TFM said he pleaded with hef until she took it back saying she exaggerated or something...that happened to me, but kept asking why she a lying bitch. In college this happened again (at a Nursing College, not rape but sexual harassment.) I challenged it and won, but I kept a wife berth from women. Sandman got stronger more muscular: He I believed fucked with that bitch denying her anything, and she admitted she lied.

@tarknan: Plus, as for me, I was surrounded by pussy growing up. My grandfather redpilled me but it did not stick. Pussy, Pussy, all around: Not one I could fuck could be found... unless I wanted to be incestious... So, Death had to bitchslap a few times to really lock in. Yeah, The Gods picked me and gave me a choise... something I have been noticing among the NDEs and OBEs having experienced too though most of them did not completely cross over... Sorry, Near Death Experiencers (NDE) and Out of Bosy Experience (OBE.) The Gods have been preparing for something... as wecare at the End Times of hhe Age of Pisces, ie Biblical Salvation ( within now the next twenty or so years) and entering into Age of Aquarius the Pagans clain to be "Enlightenment," but Biblically Revelations... just saying. As they say "Know your Place." Yeah, I know in Time and In Space, how about you? Tjr Spiritual War is being raged silently around you: Most are blind to it but feel the effects. This is where we are. Have a nice day. Hopefully, domething was enlightening for you. I should end by stating I asked The Gods if I could push back Armageddon... All I can say is after twenty some years when we rnter the Age of Revelations, we have one day to one thousand years (and maybe another centurt upto 1,100 years) before the End Times Battles-- Tribulations and Armageddon. What you may not know before we can have either Tribulations or Armageddon, Gog and Magog or China and Russia will invade Israel creating "cities of the dead" requiring comete burials: I sudpect NBC warfare...

Damn.. that came out longer than I expected... as she likes to say...Lol!

@The Realist Philosopher: Precisely

@WMHarrison94: I’m sorry you went through that. I was not excluding false sex allegations, mothers to their sons or even a woman that sees you from a distance or any other situation but just making a general statement related to the video and comment. I could have used the phrase relations or interactions with, but I don’t see how anything you said contradicts anything I said. Maybe I can say it like this; women turn men into MGTOW at much higher rates than any man no matter the content.

@WMHarrison94: That’s interesting and I am familiar with some of this but I can’t really say either way.