Deep State | How to get a national security state w/ Thomas Drake, part 1
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Published on 15 Aug 2026 / In
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On this episode of The Deep State, John Kiriakou discusses how the road to a national security state is paved with good intentions. John is joined by his long-time friend and former NSA Whistleblower, Thomas Drake, to discuss how they believe the national security apparatus continues to get stronger and stronger despite constant complaints from the electorate. Don’t miss it!
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