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Published on 22 Jan 2023 / In Film & Animation

Armorer

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HairlessMonkey
HairlessMonkey 1 year ago

Baldwin is ultimately responsible... his finger was on the trigger when it discharged, otherwise the single action revolver would not have fired. According to the FBA the revolver did not fail so it was not an accidental discharge, it was a Negligent Discharge. I've owned over a half dozen Single Action Army revolvers over the last 45 years and they all work the same. All he had to do was obey the 4 basic rules of firearm safety and no one would have been shot.

The armorer is at fault for handing off the revolver unsafely (to a narcissistic nitwit) and for stating it was "cold" when it was loaded with live rounds. The armorer is responsible for allowing live rounds on the set. She is also responsible, but not to the degree Alec Baldwin is, for the death.

ALL ALEC HAD TO DO WAS HIS DUE DILIGENCE , CHECK THE FIREARM TO SEE IF IT WAS LOADED AND TREAT IT IF IT WAS LOADED EVEN IF IT WASN'T.

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Eddie Moore/The Albuquerque Journal via AP
ALEC BALDWIN Rust Shooting
"Union members walked off the set of “Rust” hours before Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed the film’s cinematographer — and cited “poor gun safety” as one of the reasons for the move, according to a text message obtained by The Post."

"An unidentified woman claiming to be a union member on the Baldwin-produced movie said the crew was upset about their hotels and poor COVID protocols — but most worried about an overall lack of safety on the set, especially gun safety."

“The entire camera crew walked off that morning for that exact reason,” the person wrote in part of the text obtained by The Post from an IATSE union member. “Last night we wrote resignation letters. We cited everything from lack of payment for three weeks, taking our hotels away despite asking for them in our deals, lack of COVID safety (and on) top of that, poor gun safety! Poor on set safety, period! We wrote about this exact issue last night and walked this morning because of it!”
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Negligent Discharge
A negligent discharge is an unintentional firing of a firearm due to a violation of the four firearms safety rules, or other improper weapon handling. In the case of a negligent discharge, the fault lies entirely with the person handling the gun, and could have been prevented.

Accidental Discharge
An accidental discharge is the unintentional firing of a firearm due to mechanical failure or equipment malfunction. (Which did not happen in this case according to the FBI. The single action revolver in question did not malfunction.)

Four Basic Rules of Firearm Safety
1. TREAT Every Gun As If It Is Loaded.
Even if you know the gun is unloaded, treat it with the same respect as you would a loaded gun.

2. Keep Your Finger DAMN Off The Trigger And Outside The Trigger Guard Until You Are Ready To Shoot.
The only time your finger should be on the trigger is when you're pointing the firearm at the intended target and you're prepared to shoot.

3. Never Let The Muzzle Sweep Anything You're Not Willing To Destroy.
Even if the gun is unloaded, it is not an excuse to violate Rule 1.

4. Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Near, In Line With and Behind Your Target.
Make sure you have identified the target as valid, and there is no one or anything in front or behind the target that you're not willing to destroy.

Handing Off a Firearm to Another
1. Revolvers - Never hand off a revolver with a closed action. Leave the empty cylinder open for double action revolvers and the loading gate open on single actions revolvers.

2. Semiautomatic Pistols - Remove the magazine and lock the slide back on semi automatic firearms, making sure there is no round in the chamber or anything in the magazine well. Use your eyes and finger to inspect the chamber for any round.

Anyone and everyone that handles a firearm is responsible for inspecting it to make sure it's unloaded, even if that person just saw someone inspect it.

We're responsible for every round that is fired from a gun, whether from a handgun, rifle or shotgun. (Not so sure about LEOs though ¯\_(ºلº)_/¯ )

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

Lets how the femon Armorer story is and if she gets the proper charge....or a light charge

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mrghoster
mrghoster 1 year ago

I seem to remember aq similar case many years ago with the Brandon Lee shooting thing on a film set, anyone remember that? Has Baldwin been mouthing of against the Elite or something and they have done what they usually do , Set someone up? Oh! hang on my tin foil hat just slipped off! lol!

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

I think it was just plain incompetence, that could easily have hurt no one......and I your using Titanium Foil

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hqwebsite
hqwebsite 1 year ago

Forgive me for my lack of understanding. All I want to ask is; Why's live round even there in the filming location?

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

Because green screen is expensive

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AwfulDIGGER
AwfulDIGGER 1 year ago

There's been more complete coverage outside the Main Stream Media (MSM). Cast and crew were firing the weapons when not using them for shooting. The armorer is definitely negligent in many ways. Alec is still at fault for no less than negligent homicide.

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Shadewalker
Shadewalker 1 year ago

I don't know who this is but I do know that my dad told me that you treat a gun as always loaded.

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

That is the law with guns

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bolyami
bolyami 1 year ago

Should be murder 2. Always check a gun for rounds regardless of whom hands it to you. And this isn't Baldwin's first time using a gun. Harsh but necessary. Not only did he flagrantly disregard gun safety and killed a femon but then lied about it.

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

Is he a hunter outside of acting, does he even know about guns, the Armorer is to make the gun safe before it gets to the actors hands, he was reckless with it , but if the Armorer (femon) did her job then things would have been different, even if he pointed the gun at someone and pulled the trigger

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bolyami
bolyami 1 year ago

@SoloMan Zone: he's been in a bunch of films handling guns AND has actively been skeet shooting. The armorer is being charged as well.

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SoloMan Zone
SoloMan Zone 1 year ago

@bolyami: I hope the both get what they deserve, but I am doubtful

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