The Rise of Simps and The Fall of MGTOW

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Published on 20 Apr 2020 / In People & Blogs

My thoughts on the rise and fall of MGTOW and the age of simping that we are currency living in.

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Sardonic Smile
Sardonic Smile 8 days ago

came back to this post. the most hard hitting point is: "you cannot stop Femism", -TFM

i will see you on the flip side, perhaps... then we will turn down a glass.

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The_Shoveler
The_Shoveler 23 days ago

I have been around lurking in the shadows listening to the content for about 8 years. The message in MGTOW is generally not hateful. We've seen a few crazy people start channels, who cross the line, but generally they never last long. Crazy fringe groups are quickly used by those who do not want to see men's rights addressed, as powerful propaganda tools to justify shutting down MGTOW. But also in the last 8 or so years I've seen a lot of channels pop up that were likely motivated by the trends. They saw an opportunity to make money, but they were not MGTOW, just people looking to make a buck. Some of the longer standing channels lost their enthusiasm once the money dried up as well, which makes me think they too were in it for the money. I do think that society is changing regardless of MGTOW. Far too many men are getting fed up with the way the system chews them up and spits them out. They may not find MGTOW, but the statistics show that men are still going their own way in growing numbers. There is no way that a system where women take and take from men, and give less and less, is going to be sustainable. Still, I find it interesting to watch how the system is slowly destroying itself. Woke movies with petite blonde supermodels kicking 300Lbs bad guys and sending them flying in the air are comical, unrealistic... and most of the viewing public aren't buying it. I am sure a few woke women go home and try to kick a punching bag and fall over... realizing that it is just too fake to believe. I suppose if I am honest we see the same fake physics in hero movies where men kick 300Lbs men through the air... So much of what we seen in media is fake, but sadly most people are herd animals and they just can't separate fantasy from reality.

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Infinity_Challenger
Infinity_Challenger 25 days ago

I wonder what section of man want validation, kids or etc.
Atleast those who just want sex can be mgtowd simply by getting a sexdoll or artificial vagina in their face.
kid would need art wombs and even then, a second parent has its luring advantages.

The validation NPCs though... I don't know what can 'save' them except genocide (relax it's called cucking them. but genocide's on the table too)

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Infinity_Challenger
Infinity_Challenger 25 days ago

1:00 Content creators stopping wouldn't explain a reduction in MGTOWs unless there already was a high attrition rate compensated by a constant influx of new MGTOW. My first reaction is content creator reduction reduces influx, but it would not cause alone a fall in the MGTOW population.

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raghunath
raghunath 27 days ago

100 % correct
google is mother fucker
suppresed the voice of man

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Mademyownway
Mademyownway 27 days ago

There are many so called MGTOW men on TY still trying to sell books or doing classes trying to tell guys it is ok to deal with women and "get along", just to get a wet dick. These guys are also playing to women and not talking about this issues men face each day when dealing with this feminized west.
It is all about subs and Google money. These guys are too busy trying to make money to fix up a bus or travel around the world getting pussy. I have been shadow banned on YT for calling these SIMPS out on their channels and other places. Took a little time to figure out, but having many YT accounts and managing a few for others, it found my posting issues. Within minutes of posting anything, my post would me deleted. I guess I pissed off a few SIMPS and feminist with my comments. Nothing but facts, but we all know facts gets you nowhere.
I am so tired of seeing these so called MGTOW men talk shit to make money. They are all worthless.
Feminism will stop, when it all blows up. There are many "women" out there that are worn out and road the CC for too long. They are complaining now, but too late. Long way to 80 (quote from Popp). Just look at how the feminist are going after the Doll industry. It is ok for these women to have a rubber or mechanical dick, but a man cannot have a doll.

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SavagePanda
SavagePanda 1 month ago

MGTOW don't recruit, we're like a hospital, we just watch them arrive. If the community is shrinking its because the posers who couldn't hack it without female validation relapsed and the men who truly embraced the philosophy are still living their new, independent lives.

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Bredpills
Bredpills 2 months ago

Yeah no... I don't know about other people but, this shit is for life. There is absolutely no going back. Getting married is giving up the one and only thing that a woman will respect, the ability to walk away.

Also, man if i learned anything from Vegeta, its to never give up on that saiyan pride, never get soft in peace time. This pride that redpill knowledge and MGTOW philosophy has cultivated in me. I cannot compromise on it. Can't even force myself to worship pussy if I wanted to.

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SirKnight
SirKnight 3 months ago

You have a way of paraphrasing people in the most hilarious way dude

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MegillahGuerrilla
MegillahGuerrilla 3 months ago

What evidence is there that MGTOW is shrinking?

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Themanwithnoname
Themanwithnoname 3 months ago

you could only choose one .... a trending key word or an ideology rising in the shadows

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themgtowartist
themgtowartist 4 months ago

mgtow is not shrinking it's growing

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AngryVeganCyclist
AngryVeganCyclist 5 months ago

By the way, as a counterbalance to what TFM said in this here video, I see this duality going on, where it seems that everybody knows how nature works, yet we bend the knee to feminism in the public eye, completely unwilling to talk about the reality before us. https://www.mgtow.tv/watch/nor....mies-know-redpill-le

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AngryVeganCyclist
AngryVeganCyclist 5 months ago

TFM what do you use for your background visualizer?

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AngryVeganCyclist
AngryVeganCyclist 5 months ago

Only technology can outsell the Vagina Monopoly.

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anonmachina
anonmachina 5 months ago

I went RED PILL video carpet bombing on my best friend (seeing that subtlety was not effective), to try to have him save himself from his ever-approaching DIVORCE APOCALYPSE, to no avail.

His wife has told him she no longer considers him a caring and capable man, nor a proper husband, nor a father figure to his remaining underage daughter, and that she will leave him when the daughter reaches legal adult age (very soon). She told him she does not want anything, but to part ways (now).

But he submits even more.

I advised him on how to prepare, so as to keep all of his assets (via liquidity) and most of his cash (with the exception of alimony, if that), but he doubled-down.

A retired Fireman. An experienced home rebuildrr. A cook. A house. A huge monthly pension.

(A stark contrast to his wife's perception of him 'not being a capable man').

We (friend and I) no longer talk about this particular issue. (Perhaps, it could be due to when [yet one more time] he went on about how 'gawd presents every individual only what each can handle', I retorted, 'Fuck religion. Fuck Christianity. And fuck gawd, the Christian gawd, and anything remotely propositioned as a gawd. THINK: An omnipotent gawd would prevent things like this from occurring, preferrably by taking people out of existence'.)

Perhaps.

Yet he has elected to fall on a sword, because...SIMPvirus is incurable in some (in his case, religious conditioning--Christianity--being a major contributor).

Tragic.

The thirst--and the willful ignorance--is all to common.

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SavagePanda
SavagePanda 5 months ago

You can't save men like that. You can only watch as they destroy themselves and then tell them: "I told you so."

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Atton
Atton 5 months ago

I tend to think you have missed one key point, simps are not on the rise. Simps have been there all along doing exactly what they have always been doing. I honestly think you are kind of overplaying the obsession for pussy for men. Make no mistake about it, it is an extremely powerful influence and in the cases of the simps all consuming.
It is without a doubt true that a great many men will take the bad deal no matter what. However in places like Japan and even in Spain, I think something has become clear.
The power of pussy as great as it is has its limits, as things become worse the number of lowercase mgtow only grow. Some men are going to pretend this problem doesn't exist but those days are coming to an end.

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stranger
stranger 5 months ago

It all boils down to 2 things which being a mgtow can't provide, which is pussy and a family aka children. Yes you can adopt or have a surrogate, but why go through the troubles and expenses that comes with adoption or a surrogate when you can fuck and cum a THOT and she makes a child for you. When it comes to pussy, even though sex dolls and sex robots are nice, they can't really compete with a female who not only cleans herself but provides more than just a wet hole to fuck. So even though mgtow and mra might be shrinking at least they did leave an impact by bringing to light the struggles of men to the public.

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Nobody_Nobody2
Nobody_Nobody2 5 months ago

provides more? many i mean many do not!

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HanLockhart
HanLockhart 5 months ago

Hmmm. I don`t entirely agree, but if so, well at least the good news is that feminism will ultimately die. I just don`t like it having to go the very painful way, where men will die. Still MGTOW anyway. Might be time to start doing MGTOW videos again if that is the case. the originnal reason I stopped was cos there were plenty MGTOW videos doing a better job than I. But if we`re losing them, then I will start up.

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Nobody_Nobody2
Nobody_Nobody2 5 months ago

in Europe either Islam or this small conservative religious christian group seems to be the future.

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Trevor West
Trevor West 5 months ago

Thanks TFM ...spot on.

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JustinPeanuts
JustinPeanuts 5 months ago

Simping has been around forever. Apart from Western Civilization being destroyed by feminism, the only other way to end feminism will be the development of love bots from love dolls.

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Nobody_Nobody2
Nobody_Nobody2 5 months ago

aren't they blocking them??? i have feeling the more Gyno we go, the more anti male it becomes that feminist will destroy the production of sex dolls

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Nobody_Nobody2
Nobody_Nobody2 5 months ago

so thats it, we die??? feminism in the end will win and then we get conquer or rebuild? i guess Islam will win in Europe! oh well sad times!

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Jason_MGTOW
Jason_MGTOW 5 months ago

Not in Brazil we are awakening down here

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Rei123
Rei123 5 months ago

The term "MGTOW" maybe shrinking but the philosophy is growing as usual. You see more channels that does not use the term "MGTOW" but are promoting the philosophy. Channels like Coach Greg Adams, Think Before you Sleep, Replicant Fish and Better Bachelor rarely uses the term MGTOW in their videos but are promoting the philosophy. I think that's where the era is heading. In Japan, many men are MGTOW naturally without them knowing the term and even starting one. Nature never lies and will always stay natural.

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Poseidon
Poseidon 5 months ago

This is also what I have noticed, big time. Trust me, the red pill knowledge is gettng out there fast, and reaches the younger guys very quickly. As far as men being just one BJ away from the plantation, I agree to a certain extent, but I think the younger you are, the tougher it is to stay away from pussy (biology). Once you had enough pussy in your life, look at the price you paid to have some and then it suddenly loses all its interest... It's much easier to be MGTOW when you are older, live through hell with bitches, and have stuff to lose (or already lost it). That being said, as you mention those other YT channels, yes the message keeps being broadcasted loud and clear, just not under the MGTOW label. I think it's a good strategy, so we're not labeled as belonging to a hate group, and men will look into this matter without feeling guilty of reading some hateful material.

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JMGTOW
JMGTOW 5 months ago

MGTOW or variations of it, in its core is just a logical response based on the current situation. Even without MGTOW content or any knowledge of it, there are men who are aware of the situation and decided to turn away from the system due to financial, marital, biological considerations and come to this conclusion by themselves. It is ultimately just coming to terms with reality and making the most effective tactic available. Currently the system is failing due to reduce birth and the system's response is to enslave men to boost the rates. The men who recognize this and counters with ditching the system is just a natural response.

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Jeremy Meeks
Jeremy Meeks 5 months ago

The blackpill is rising but MGTOW is dying because it doesn't work if you're a baldin 5'2 indian janitor. Being ugly and short is a death sentence for you. Escorts can reject their clients if they're ugly or short. Unattractive people are paid less than even average people. Luckily I'm 6ft, have hallow cheeks, and a good thick skull. Also I was part of a violent gang and almost beat a 16 year to death. Thank god going MGTOW worked.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 5 months ago

In Germany whores are so cheap (influx from girls from Eastern Europe) they have the "all you can fuck buffet", so you pay one entry price in a bordello and you can fuck as much as you want (most men only do 2x tbh and have some drinks with the girls in the bar area). The prices range from 60 euro and upward, so price of vageeen is supercheap.

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

60 euro is still too high compared to a doll. You can fuck a doll any time you want, not just one night. The cheap dolls that are still great quality (JY, D4E, DH168, even some Piper, WM and YL dolls) are for around 1200 euro, so 20 nights in that whore house pay for your babe who you can fuck for years to come. There is no reason to accept the laundry list of legal and physical risks that come with fucking a whore.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 5 months ago

@MrA_H0Ie: Totally agree about the doll thing, although man dont go to brothels for the sex only, they want "genuine" talks and hugs, and women liking them, (shit bluepill right?) Sidenote: Well, the great thing about Germany being a welfare state and prostitution being legal, is that women cannot reject employment request from brothels (as it is legally seen as just any other job) without cut in social welfare. The German woman can count their lucky stars since the supply right now outstrips demand, a Gorgeous slavic girl can earn retarded amounts of money (relatively what she can earn in her home country).

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

I've seen a comment here that was deleted later about 300$ for a fuck at a pro whore house.
Can anyone confirm that price?
Even the higher end, hyper realistic Gynoid dolls are cheap compared to that. A dozen fucks pay for one of those, and just 4 fucks pay for a low end doll that I plan to buy.

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Spartacus
Spartacus 5 months ago

Thank you for the eulogy.

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The_King_of_Poland
The_King_of_Poland 5 months ago

I want islam as a solution for the abomination and cancer that is feminism - but ONLY for feminsim.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 5 months ago

Pipe dream, islam will not be contained just in one area of society, but I get your point, we need something akin or even better when it comes to dealing with women

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dLayne
dLayne 5 months ago

Yeah, well, the rise may be true. But, I see it like an easy ammo pick up. CHEERS! I'll see you in the wasteland.

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Maxellmatrix
Maxellmatrix 5 months ago

That's why we need a world wide collapse.

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RedPillSatori
RedPillSatori 5 months ago

Worldwide fertility rates are dropping, even in non-Feminist countries. Something will give sooner or later. Even these countries exporting migrants are going to see a demographic collapse in the next 50 years or so.

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jaie666
jaie666 5 months ago

I agree, now its really hard to find MGTOW content on utube, however if you see Popp, he is doing decent i think.

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RedPillSatori
RedPillSatori 5 months ago

Yes! I was just thinking today about how my YT feed is different from what it was even 6 months ago. I go to YT mainly for "normie" content now, and come her for MGTOW/gender related content.

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thunderwarrior
thunderwarrior 5 months ago

at this point all that is left now is to prepare and get through the collapse

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RedPillSatori
RedPillSatori 5 months ago

Just look after yourself. Like Colttaine said in a recent video, ya, women may want to treat you like a beta or use, but you don't have to take that shit. Just give them ??? and go your own way..lol

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RedPillSatori
RedPillSatori 5 months ago

ahh..MGTOW.tv comments doesn't have unicode support for emojis yet..too bad haha

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thunderwarrior
thunderwarrior 5 months ago

@RedPillSatori: one day hopefully

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charliebrownau
charliebrownau 5 months ago

Once you remove female "friends" from your life, you are one step away from cucked plantation

No going on
POF/Tinder/Instawhores/etc

If you still have the thirst for Pussy
- Pay 200-300 bucks for Sex at a licensed brothel
- Fap
- Get sex doll/robot/artificial pussy

PUA's are always one female away from false rape claim, be it in the now or 5-10-20 years time
or the weekend once she walks up and changes her mind

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

300$ for a fuck at a pro whore house? Can anyone confirm that price? Even the higher end, hyper realistic Gynoid dolls are cheap compared to that. A dozen fucks pay for one of those, and just 4 fucks pay for a low end doll that I plan to buy.

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charliebrownau
charliebrownau 5 months ago

TFM
Maybe you need to check out state of MGTOW on
- Gab
- Minds
- Bitchute
- Voat
etc
instead of checking MGTOW stats on Instawhores/twatter/fakebook/censortube

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HigorRodrigues
HigorRodrigues 5 months ago

Here in Brasil youtube and mgtow tv it's the only places where we seen mgtow content, this other plataforms are amazing, but stil have way too little reach.

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charliebrownau
charliebrownau 5 months ago

I found a great MEME that shows how SIMPAGE turns "mgtow" men into weak cucks
It again proves that the top level of MGTOW is MONK


https://imgur.com/gallery/yUfn7Bd

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ImLiberated
ImLiberated 5 months ago

Well I'm not surprised. Reproductive instinct comes 2nd only to survival and during peace time with modern technology, our survival in the west on average is not threatened if we can support ourselves decently. So now survival being taken care of, men now desperately try to fulfill their 'next in the line' instinct by relentlessly chasing pussy despite all the odds against them. These men being overtly blue pilled or closet blue/purple pilled are unknown to or in denial about the fact that in the present time, chasing pussy actually threatens your survival (lands you in jail, gets you killed by white knights etc.). A minority of us men have mastered the art to accept this bitter fact either by force feeding on red pill content or by a grim experience from the past, hence our survival instinct takes over via rationale and logic whenever our reproductive instinct tries to flare us up at the sight of a young female.

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

That's a good answer to the question "Why do you talk about women all the time if you GYOW?" Yeah, we need to remind ourselves about the risks to keep our reproduction instinct in check by ramping up our survival instinct.

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Poseidon
Poseidon 5 months ago

I don't know what you mean exactly by the fall of MGTOW. Sure enough, content creators have a much harder time now to bring their content to men who've reached the point in their life where they need to hear and understand this important message. As you mentioned, a lot of efforts are being spent by YouTube to demonize MGTOW, label MGTOW as a hate group, demonetize and shadow ban MGTOW channels, etc. That for sure doesn't help promote this philosophy and reach new comers, but I wouldn't say MGTOW is dying. My son is 15 y/o and they are already using the MGTOW lingo between friends, and I never really discussed it with him. He knows I'm a MGTOW monk, knows the MGTOW acronym, but we haven't discussed anything specific yet together. With the stratospheric level of entitlement women have today, and once those young boys get burned and destroyed a few times, let me tell you they will find peace, quiet and freedom in the MGTOW philosophy rather sooner than later. MGTOW is here to stay and grow, I don't see otherwise, women are crazier than ever.

As far as I'm concerned, I can't care less about pussy anymore, it has completely lost the appeal it used to have on me. The 10 minutes of fun once and a while is not worth the nose bleeds, the nagging and the bitching! I've never been happier in my life! Never again!

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T.F. Monkey
T.F. Monkey 5 months ago

I'm talking about the fall of MGTOW in the public sphere. MGTOW has been driven underground and isn't growing like it used to due to censorship.

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HigorRodrigues
HigorRodrigues 5 months ago

he says that most "mgtow" are simps, and that the movement will never work, not because its wrong or anything like this, but because most of guys are cucks and simps and the algorithim is stoping the content. basicly that, feminism will win just like comunism, and then will ruin because its inhumam

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T.F. Monkey
T.F. Monkey 5 months ago

@HigorRodrigues: Most men are simps. Barbarossa is the one who famously coined that most MGTOW are one blowjob away from running back to the plantation.

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dLayne
dLayne 5 months ago

Third tri-mester women LOVE EGGS ... for breakfast :)

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 5 months ago

@T.F. Monkey: Barbarossa is also the one actually having a girlfriend, he might be redpilled as fuck, but not MGTOW

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

@T.F. Monkey: Don't confuse the stats about MGTOW in the mainstream with the actual growth rate that you think is shrinking. The spread of the MGTOW philosophy is independent from any public content whether mainstream or not. MGTOW has existed since well before the 20th century, even the term MGTOW dates back before that. MGTOW is exactly the same market-driven organic response to a bad deal as any drop in sales is. When the deal gets worse, more people decide not to take it. The deal with women is just getting worse, so men are opting out in increasing numbers, no matter the media makes it look, and no matter how much MGTOW content is available.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

How about instead of blaming everyone else, you take a moment to acknowledge that "taking women's rights away" is the principle that you espouse and cling to. Rather than the principle of responsibilitism, which far more men and women would get behind you instead chose to push the principle that 90+% of people won't agree with. You can keep pretending they are the same thing, you can keep pretending that the percentage of responsible women is insignificant, go ahead and die on that hill. Your refusal to embrace the logical system based on responsibility is why you have failed. You have self sabotaged and made this specifically about taking rights away from all women, and very few of us are going to follow you off that cliff.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

@VaperGamer: Yes, a small percentage of women take responsibility for their actions. Are we going to treat them like children too? Or do they not deserve rights because vagina? If you believe in freedom in exchange for responsibility, it should apply to everyone. Women are not children, they are adults with fully developed brains and they should be treated as such and held responsible for their actions. We don't know what percentage of women are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions, because we've never actually held them responsible.\

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RoboCat
RoboCat 5 months ago

TFM has explained this countless times..... he calls it "Taking women's rights away" because that's what they will say and he's right. He's inoculating us against that counter-argument, very effectively in my opinion..... you are cucking out hard and deliberately missing the point.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

@RoboCat: No buddy, that's just what he says when someone questions "Taking women's rights away", because that's what he wants you to think. We don't need "inoculating" against a retarded counter argument. Tfm wants to take rights away from all women, regardless of any exceptions to the general rule. I refuse to be held responsible for grown adults, I'm not a parent and have no desire to be one.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

Let's try holding women responsible for their actions first and see what happens, maybe they will surprise us. If that somehow doesn't work then we can take rights away from everyone with a vagina, cause reasons.

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EdTrollington
EdTrollington 5 months ago

@LaffyTaffy: Try holding women responsible for their actions? JFC you dense motherfucker. We've TRIED THAT ALREADY. Nobody is interested in that. Wtf do you think the MRA movement was? They got labeled as a hate group. Go cuck off somewhere, because you clearly can't understand shit. TFM isn't playing some 4D chess game, he's pretty cut and dry with his intentions. He believes in responsibilitism but also recognizes that it's basically a pipe dream that will probably never happen. You need to remove womens' political power completely before anything else can get done.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

@EdTrollington: Nope your completely wrong, at no time have we ever held women responsible, and if you think holding them responsible is impossible, then taking their rights away is even less likely.

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T.F. Monkey
T.F. Monkey 5 months ago

Try taking the dick out of your ear when I'm talking, and you might learn something.

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RoboCat
RoboCat 5 months ago

@LaffyTaffy: You are obviously not listening, but let me say it directly for you; There is NO difference between "Holding women responsible" and "taking their rights away". You are simply offended by the optics of one and cower behind the 'safety' of the other, aka, Cuking out.

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RoboCat
RoboCat 5 months ago

@VaperGamer: Treating women the same as men? are you retarded or just trolling? men and women are not the same and therefore, treating them 'the same' is utter nonsense.

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RoboCat
RoboCat 5 months ago

@VaperGamer: "if they fuck up treat them the same as men" /facepalm, what part of "men and women are not the same" were you too stupid to understand? actually nevermind, you're completely retarded.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

Yes yes, dicks and ears and the fuck in the world won't make your arguments any more valid, so just calm down. Holding women responsible (i.e responsibilitism), isn't much more likely to happen than outright taking women's freedom away. Neither are really viable solutions but at least one of them is objectively valid. Do as you will, I don't care, but you aren't fooling anyone with your "woe is me, I tried to save you all" nonsense. You don't really give a fuck and your efforts aren't really genuine.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

Just because men and women aren't the same, doesn't mean "women are children" is objectively valid either. In reality they are somewhere in between, with vast differences on an individual level. I know it's become anti mgtow to speak in anything other than concrete generalizations, but I really don't give a fuck anymore, you can go be king of the mgtows somewhere else.

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EdTrollington
EdTrollington 5 months ago

You're both fucking retarded. Holding women accountable for their actions would necessitate taking their rights away because they are no responsibile.

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EdTrollington
EdTrollington 5 months ago

The MRA movement tried to hold women accountable for their actions. That was part of their schtick. Justice for men, accountability for women. Guess what? They got labeled a hate group. Nobody is interested in holding women accountable. They tried to make it happen and it failed. You're both fucking retarded.

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Bill
Bill 5 months ago

The privilege of voting was first given to landowners because property tax was the only tax that was collected from citizens at the time as such they were the only net tax payers. After we lost the war of 1812 due to a high rate of desertion discussions were had about how to get young men who own no property to fight in a war to save the property of older men and then we gave voting privileges to fighting aged males in exchange for signing up for the draft. Then women whined and got the right to vote while having to take on no burden or responsibility in exchange. You can’t get to a system of “ responsibilitism without first taking unearned privileges away from the only group that was ever given them without having to take on any responsibility in return. You then go on to mention some shit about majority of people going along with stuff or 90%+ not going along yada yada yada… which all relates to populism which is the exact opposite of anything that could be considered responsibilitism. MGTOW is not popular, it’s not about getting others to go along with you. MGTOW is about going inward and examining yourself and the world around you from an objective as possible perspective and breaking things down to what works and what does not work. TFM has repeatedly said that TWRA will never gain wide acceptance nor popularity. His only claim is that it is necessarily the first step that must be taken before any corrective action can be taken to prevent this ship from sinking. He didn’t say people will like it, he didn’t say that it will happen, he just said that it would work. As men going our own way we can talk about what would work and what won’t without having to worry about winning over the masses because we are not trying to become popular we are going our own way.

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Bill
Bill 5 months ago

@LaffyTaffy: Men won't hold women accountable, women won't hold othe women accountable, the law won't hold women accountable and women refuse to hold themselves accountable, they want to be protected not responsible. Your imaginary world where women are equal to men and cappable of taking on equal responsibility is a dream world that has no basis in reality. Go find an MRA forum where you can find a bunch of simps an cucks to go along with your fairy tale.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

@Bill: Jesus, a coherent line of reasoning in this comment section? Where did you spring from? Yeah alright, we have 2 distinct options here. 1) We blatantly strip women of their rights because the vast majority aren't capable of taking equal responsibility to men. 2) We cleverly hide this behind a system where people in general are expected to be responsible in tandem with their rights and privileges. I don't really care which one we end up with, we'll get there eventually anyways, but which one is more plausible to be enacted? Like it or not there are some very unfeminine women out there, infertile fat ugly beasts, and men will still simp for these filthy creatures. If both option 1 and option 2 lead to more or less the same outcome (minus a few marriageable women being stripped of voting rights and education), then why not try to advocate the one that has a greater chance of acceptance? I'm not arguing here from some kind of moral high ground, I'd be just as happy if women were housebound sex slaves (would save me the cost of a doll), I just want to preach a message that isn't doomed to failure from the start. Being told that I need to be "inoculated" against women claiming their rights are being taken away is just insulting. Any reasonable/rationale man who agrees with responsabilitism doesn't need some kind of anti simp vaccine to do what needs to be done.

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LaffyTaffy
LaffyTaffy 5 months ago

@EdTrollington: The mra movement did nothing of the kind. The mra movement tried to work with the current system, and their numbers were far fewer than they are now. I'm not suggesting we work within the current framework, I'm suggesting we advocate a replacement system that actually has a chance of being accepted.

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Bill
Bill 5 months ago

@LaffyTaffy: You are once again making an argument to appeal to the masses which is populism and doomed to trun into communism. You also make an arguement to mislead people which is an even worse idea. If you are being honest and straighforward with your terms then they aren't valid and won't stand the test of time. Further you are not the kind of person that anyone who insists on accountable attitudes is going to wnat to deal with. We will eventually get back to a system where men deal with men and in that system accountability is key and bullshit is not tolerated.

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Bill
Bill 5 months ago

@LaffyTaffy: You are once again making an argument to appeal to the masses which is populism and doomed to trun into communism. You also make an arguement to mislead people which is an even worse idea. If you aren't being honest and straighforward with your terms then they aren't valid and won't stand the test of time. Further you are not the kind of person that anyone who insists on accountable attitudes is going to want to deal with. We will eventually get back to a system where men deal with men and in that system accountability is key and bullshit is not tolerated.

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john locke
john locke 5 months ago

Simps got to simp

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 5 months ago

The worst thing is that we will not see each other on the wasteland... we will have to endure Clown World for a long time still.

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 5 months ago

Corona chan had the reverse effect that we all expected too, women didn't became tolerable , they doubled down on leftism and feminsm. People are more leftists than ever.

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 5 months ago

Probably because the first contact people have with the red pill is Tradcuckery , and nofap/pua bullshit.

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Vampi Salaura
Vampi Salaura 5 months ago

do you think nofap is any good than fapping? I heard nofap can lead to simpin sadly ?

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TauTheCaretaker
TauTheCaretaker 5 months ago

@Vampi Salaura: Does it? I'm a fapstronaut but I'm not gonna salivate over pussy. Maybe I'm a minority.

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JMGTOW
JMGTOW 5 months ago

IMO the bar for ascending to MGTOW is a bit too high for most men. Through years of indoctrination, biological instinct, social disciplining, and silencing of information, most men are unable to self-actualize or face the system for what it is. So even if you show them the red pill, they are just better off blue. This is a sad state of the world as it's veering toward self-destruction so quickly.

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MrA_H0Ie
MrA_H0Ie 5 months ago

True. The entry price to MGTOW is high. But the number of MGTOW is still growing because the risks dealing with women are increasing.

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NoFemVAL
NoFemVAL 5 months ago

Gentlemen we can only save ourselves. Bottom line. Maintain your own individual freedom. Let the simps live with the tyranny they thirst over.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 5 months ago

the power of vagina, (that dude is Larry Ellison btw)

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 5 months ago

@Lucifer333: more like , the lack of power of simps

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NoFemVAL
NoFemVAL 5 months ago

Some of us have already had so many females, that we never need another one again.

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NoFemVAL
NoFemVAL 5 months ago

I will NEVER simp again. MGTOW for the remainder of life.

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Gengis
Gengis 5 months ago

MGTOW is not suitable for most men. Most people have a very low level of awareness to understand what is going on around them. And even after realizing that there is something very wrong in society. They will hardly accept that there is no solution and will insist on error ad infinitum.

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Sentient_Of_Truth
Sentient_Of_Truth 5 months ago

simps incels will repeate the definition of insanity until they die. however i'm glad some of them are discovering mgtow.tv hopfully they will get enough red pill them enough, that it will quench their thirst for simpping to go their own way.

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