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The Rise Of PUA & Decline Of MGTOW

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Published on 29 Aug 2021 / In People & Blogs

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Hi Everyone Sandman Here,

This video is brought to you by a donation from Thomas. He didn't give me a specific topic so I wanted to discuss how increasingly the red pill is no longer as associated with the men's rights movement and MGTOW as it's becoming increasingly connected to the Pickup Artist Community. YouTube is promoting channels like Fresh and Fit and Richard Cooper that promote the Alpha male bullshit instead of being free to live the live you want. The idea is you still have to project an image of success to make yourself attractive to women to have any self worth. I suspect that the mainstream is figuring out they can't control manosphere philosophy so instead they are promoting the one that's the least harmless to the consumer economy and still caters to giving women attention. A high status male. What the PUAS don't tell you is that a third of millionaires out there live on less than 33k a year. Many such wouldn't be considered alphas but they have wealth because of financial prudence and responsibility. Real Alphas don't care about being alpha. It's usually the guys that are homophobic that have homosexual tendencies are trying to convince themselves that they aren't gay. My experience has always been that the men that promote their ultra macho masculinity are covering up for some weakness they have. Now I'd like to share something I read on reddit by someone named Secret Albatross and here's what he has to say: "I'd consider myself Red Pilled. I think the Red Pill's general tenants educate guys on a bunch of stuff they're never taught as kids. RedPill content creators HAVE to sell something to make money. They sell and image, or they sell their particular spin on Red Pill ideas. Kevin Samuels, Rich Cooper, Donovan Sharpe, Fresh and Fit. etc. These guys all hit the nail on some issues but have ridiculous takes on other issues. I watch content mostly because it's entertaining or because I think it's important to stay hungry in life when you aren't where you are, but I also think it can severely distort your view of the world in general. If you build up all these preconceived ideas about women, it'll build up, and you'll have a subconscious anxiety/skepticism interacting with women that will be hard to shake. I'm lucky that I had female friends and attention from women before the Red Pill, so even though it's influenced the way I think about things in some way, it doesn't impede my ability to interact normally. I feel for young guys, this is the biggest risk. To only be able to see women through a Red Pill lens. One can argue that maybe Instagram culture has
changed things a lot since I was a teen (I'm 30y), but at the end of the day, the world painted by content creators is not the real world." unquote. I agree with Secret Albatross that a lot of red pill content creators are painting the world in an incorrect way especially the macho peacocking PUA variety. But before I discuss more let me tell you about today's sponsor Ok 2B Cliche:






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BigBrianUK
BigBrianUK 5 months ago

When I started hearing Donovan Sharpe talking about Red Pill Aware, I thought, they're trying to rebrand what the RP means and market and monetize it.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 5 months ago

PUA is Snake Oil.
Back in the 90s however it wasn't.

Back in the 90s it was considered red pilled information, but they are trying to keep that status even though it's not reflected in reality anymore.

Unfortunately this will lead men into putting themselves into a bad situation and will be a very rude awakening to the men taking this type of shit seriously.

Yes, this will lead to these men going their own way, but at the cost of their livelihood more than likely it's funny, considering Tom Leykis back in the day used to use a common phrase when it came to sex with a woman and not wearing a condom, 60 seconds of slippery friction isn't worth 18 years in baby jail.

Just as PUA tactics and techniques aren't worth possibly going to real jail for several years because of the training that PUA teaches.

It puts these men into a false sense of security using these tactics until one day they get arrested because some woman accused them of something possibly rape and now their lives are ending because they made this one stupid decision to listen to the PUA Snake Oil Salesman.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 5 months ago

Sponsorships aren't necessarily a bad idea, however I do believe that most people within this community should be trying to back the websites that are more than likely to support their work instead of using the Normie platforms, yes the Normie platforms are usually free to use, but at the end of the day they shut you down demonetize you especially if it comes down to freedom of speech, and yes websites like this cost money unfortunately websites like this aren't big Tech where they can afford to run your stuff for free, however the caveat of course is freedom of speech which a lot of these Normie platforms are running out of very quickly.

However I do understand that this cuts a portion out of their profits when they go to a website such as this, so that's why they build their own system how to make money on, however when it's just them getting supported the potential portion of the numbers they could potentially get will end up going to the larger platform that supports a larger audience.

This website's not perfect but with the support of major creators making the move here, that kind of mentality could go towards making this a better platform.

My goal would be to turn this platform into Costco, where there would be a yearly or monthly subscription rate that would include all the features including more of the new features to come later on that are all meant to make the platform better.

Causing this platform to be the main platform where to find this type of content, therefore creating a separate economy best supports all creators and supports the website that keeps their content coming.

So at the end of the day, a website such as this becomes more valuable to those who wish to use it, unfortunately we have no ability to use ad Revenue like from Google, however that isn't necessarily a bad thing either, because it also allows you to be on a more secure platform less prone to being Doxxed, of course this won't help the people who allow themselves to be discovered but showing their face or giving us their real name, those people are kind of dumb if you ask me, but it is what it is some people will do this, where are the smart people won't.

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Alucard1776
Alucard1776 5 months ago

They don't want us to think for ourselves

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SOLID_MGTOW_MONK
SOLID_MGTOW_MONK 5 months ago

Let's see, so I have this right. Ban r/mgtow in order to say MGTOW is on the decline. Not according to the alternative platforms it isn't. All said and done, propaganda is still propaganda, broke is still broke MGTOW is still strong and PUA'S are still obsolete.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 5 months ago

@SOLID_MGTOW_MONK. PUA isn't broke, but I agree it is obsolete. Unfortunately they still get plenty of support because it promises guys that they will get what they want. But it's a scam it's snake oil.

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