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Celestina Says: 4 Myths of Absolutism

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Published on 19 Sep 2020 / In Entertainment

⁣Since the Absolutists have proven to be absolutely worthless, I see no further reason to tolerate their lies and bullshit. I didn't post sources because I invite you to do your own research about mercantilism, the social gospel movement, and other topics you've likely never heard about before.

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raa16
raa16 1 year ago

Refuting conservative absolutism by pointing at modern societies is about as valid as refuting patriarchy(as a good thing) by pointing at modern societies. Not saying its perfect or should be applied universally, just that it has its own merits and theres a place for it in society.

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Mackelloyd
Mackelloyd 1 year ago

slaves? earning 6k a year? da fucc?

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Robokitty
Robokitty 1 year ago

I'm not a capitalist but this was a great video. You really put effort into this.

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Exclusion_Zone
Exclusion_Zone 1 year ago

Feminism has caused fertility collapse in every country (apart from Africa & some part(s) the Middle East), not just the west.

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EdTrollington
EdTrollington 1 year ago

God damn look at them titties.

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Lucifer333
Lucifer333 1 year ago

TFM this is Better, (although the historical knowledge on Europe is retarded, protestants were fighting the catholics who were burning heratics on the stake, so no equal blame there is it?) stick to ideas and phylosophies, dont jerk your ego off by pretending to know quantum mechanics, financial instruments, biology (race realism).
I know its not your fault, because you were raised by a section 8 "knee grow" mother! and kids before age 7 need to be in a stimulating environment (brain changes at age 7 and another one at age 13). So your IQ is maybe lower then it should have been, but you still have free choice, so dont be so lazy (and your "muh have no time to read everything" is not an excuse to crap out selfmade up nonsense)

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kerserv
kerserv 1 year ago

About myth 2 and stability - it is true that Absolutism creates the Middle East and medieval Europe, and that it was riddles with war and change of kings. But I think that there is confusion about the different terms of the word "stability".
The way you live your life in the middle east stays the same, even if the guy on top of the food chain is replaced often. Your life will be similar to the life of your father. This isn't true for a changing and developing society.
Absolutism is one strategy when dealing with Chesterton's Fence. You have something new that might change society - Rock&Roll music, the invention of the internet, the idea of giving women rights, jeans pants...
and people start thinking "Should we allow this? This might change the way things go! Elvis might corrupt the minds of the young. Who knows what ramifications would the internet have. Women's rights would destabilize society. And Jeans are pants for filthy rebels!"
Today we have the answers. Back then people didn't. Absolutism is about saying "Maybe this new thing will be bad. Better not take that chance!" While other points on the triangle say "maybe this new thing will be good, better take that chance!"
So what are your values?

I heard you say things like "But what's the point if you can't have your society advance?" when Halsey tried to explain how the orthodox Jews act in Israel (They still think that jeans pants are bad for society). An absolutist will look at all the cool stuff of the modern world and say "But what's the point if your society collapses?"

That's why the Middle East is roughly the same shithole it was centuries ago, and also why they don't give women rights.
Sure, they have war and terrorism. Sure, the flags, names, and people in charge change all the time. But at least they don't have to quote grampa simpson as he says:
"I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary."

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wayfarer
wayfarer 1 year ago

In terms of the Middle East, you left out their archaic religion that allows no change - that is considered blasphemy and is punishable by death. Ready made products of civilization - that they like very much. They are as narrow-minded as those Orthodox Jews (Who are you to change any single letter in the Torah?) when it comes to changing their lives that are ruled by their religion. That's the backbone. Western countries started changing when they stopped killing people for their thoughts.

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 1 year ago

it's an important distinction. under absolutism, the periodic collapse of regimes or dynasties is just another element of their pattern of life. the patterns of life in some ancient civilizations were nearly identical for hundreds of years, in some cases more than one thousand. that is what absolutist mean by stability

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kerserv
kerserv 1 year ago

@wayfarer: Yes. Being religious, and having your religion tell you not to change anything is the tool that keeps absolutism going. Most people won't actually think about the Overton's window and what it means to gradually slide it or what it means to make a change that might eventually down the line be disastrous. But they do know "god says so". But when you get down to it, this religious law is just the means to keep your society absolutist. Like how Jewish rabbis can't overturn any law made by a previous rabbi, no matter what new information you have, and no matter how smart the current rabbi is. Jews follow laws that were made to tackle a specific problem hundreds of years ago. They have all the information as to why that law was made, with written explanations from that rabbi. Doesn't matter. A rabbi said so and that law will say forever. That's how you do absolutism.

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JustinPeanuts
JustinPeanuts 1 year ago

Progressivism and Liberalism are often confused by many people today. Progressivism focuses on equality while Liberalism focuses upon individual freedom.
These two ideas are opposites in practice, however, the mainstream stream tends to lump them together as a single philosophy.

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 1 year ago

i obviously dislike how the term liberal has been equated to progressive, but at this point its too widely accepted to push back. better to differentiate by using the term "classical" to refer to the original meaning of liberal

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Zilord
Zilord 1 year ago

Unfortunately the absolutist wont listen, they will always find a way to blame freedom and the free market . it doesn't matter if you shower them with facts or whatever. They will always point out that capitalism it's not perfect and it's to blame for the degeneration of western values and stuff like that. Unfortunately thats just how it is.
Also the jews or something.

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Darthtickles
Darthtickles 1 year ago

totally pointless to argue with them. if someone cant process advanced, nuanced concepts, everything will always be about hamfisted coercive power, mysticism and racism. the only solution to hard right authoritarian is the creation and maintenance of peace, wealth and stability. under these circumstances, the authoritarians remain an irrelevant minority and the masses remain immune to their message

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RodrickSage
RodrickSage 1 year ago

TFM, i have been to these comment section and forums, where they talk about how to resolve the crisis and take back the west, the talk about killing, banning free speech, ethnic zones, and other thing that involves violence, when i bring to the table, what about taking certain right away from women? like college and voting, they delete my comments the second it posted lol , its like that not even a option, i think this people just want war, and when the kill the majority of men, they will simply give them rights again, the power of vagina is to strong for the incel and simp, its funny cuz ancient Greece warn about this with there statues, you know how the statues of strong male figures are depicted with micro penis? in general men are doers, they develop the mind and body but you most dominate your lust to achieve, and there the fool with the big penis,with small body and mind.

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OmniStrata
OmniStrata 1 year ago

I'm cool with robot voice. Maybe TFM has a condition that affects his voice. Celestina Says is fine.

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 1 year ago

yeah... me too , i'm kinda used to celestina's voice after all those years

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AntiCuck1982
AntiCuck1982 1 year ago

yeah... me too , i'm kinda used to celestina's voice after all those years

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RoboCat
RoboCat 1 year ago

3:56 Should have explained that "liberalism" is the leftist's term for individualism/libertarianism. In other words, it's what leftists say when they are talking about when justifying subjugation & orthodoxy which are the backbone of leftist ideology like "absolutism" and marxist socialism aka "communism".

I'm a bit surprised at all these anti-Celestina comments. I've been following TFM's content for a long time and had never seen people reject Celestina until now. Hmmm.

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Free_Dolphin
Free_Dolphin 1 year ago

Dude, tfm I want to hear you talk. I don't give a shit about Celestina

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KEEPER
KEEPER 1 year ago

hey monkey! when are you going to use the lefts ideology's or symbol's against them?
like selling the dolls under the guise of solving over population and climate change?
if they get accepted in the main stream, then you will be swimming in the doe...

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selfworthy
selfworthy 1 year ago

veeeery hard to listen to a monotone robotic voice. To bad as this diminishes the effect the video would have.

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Free_Dolphin
Free_Dolphin 1 year ago

true

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