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Are Motorcycle Tires a Ripoff - The Darkside Car Tire Experiment

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Veröffentlicht auf 22 Jul 2025 / Im Film & Animation

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KerrAvon
KerrAvon 18 Std. vor

I rolled DARKSIDE on my Yamaha Warrior. The Warrior like the Rocket 3 ATE tires/tyres. Once I put on a Flat Tread Pirelli I ran a rear tire for 30K Miles. Yes, it still leaned well. I think it stuck to the road better on straight aways. I have not done it yet on my Sportster 1200 as the HD does not go through tires like the Warrior did.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Yeah I don't know if it was in the video.... but as the tyre rolls over onto the edge, the contact patch becomes very thin and the shear strength of the rubber becomes an issue..... I think using car tyres on low powered motorcycles is OK... Like 45 Cui side valve HD's , but like what he explained - all the layers of multiple redundancy for the rim locking etc., that the motorcycles have, that the car tyres don't have... I tend to go with the general concensus of banning car tyres on motorcycles, not for the banning, but for the reasons behind the banning. There seems to be a lot of dead and injured people who used car tyres, relative to those who did not. Sort of like "road worthy vehicles" that have working brakes, and tyres that have an adequate tread depth..... In having tested the ideas of no brakes and or bald tyres. I am the only person I know who has run up the back of a police car at high speed down a hill on a bicycle... with no brakes... Yeahhhhhhhh good front and rear brakes are a good idea. And if I had not of been wearing a full face helmet at 170 Kmh - my brains would have been smashed out along the road....... So with bicycle helmets - a bit of height and landing hard on asphalt and concrete kerbing at relatively low speeds ---- Yeah I endorse bicycle helmets... Totally. We were only ever made to survive well at walking speeds, on soft grassy dirt. Concrete at 30 Kmh will break a head open..

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KerrAvon
KerrAvon 17 Std. vor

I did a lot of research before I did mine. It used to be a common thing back in the 50's and 60's if you rolled into a small town without a motorcycle shop a car mechanic would throw on a car tire to get you to the next motorcycle repair shop. Now the Warrior was designed as an actual street legal Drag Bike (sort of like the V-Rod and Suzuki 109's) so it kind of took to them well. Riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous anyway with cagers on phones and them putting on make up while shooting Tik Tok videos behind the wheel. I do not recommend it on all bikes but the HEAVY Cruisers seem to take to it well. I was never a speed demon or a Barry Sheen guy so my risk was nominal. If I went SPLAT the insurance adjuster could bill me in the ole coffin. I recently started rocking Full Face Helmets as well. There are some really nice ones now unlike the past.

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KerrAvon
KerrAvon 17 Std. vor

@KerrAvon: Sorry, it wasn't a Pirelli it was a Riken. Low Profile High Speed Rubber Band Tire I put on the Warrior. https://static.tirerack.com/co....ntent/dam/tires/rike

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@KerrAvon: Yeah the OVERALL radius of the BIG proper motorcycle tyre, Vs. the very small radius on the edge of the car tyre - where rubber starts to shear off and slide out... especially in a hard lean.... Ehhhhhh There are SLOW turns, say around a car park at the super market, and then there are high power high speed corners... I just get kind of nervous when the back wheel starts to get a bit greasy in corners and the tyre is progressivly starting to slide out..... If I have to lean over a bit more, or go a bit faster or the blind corner starts to tighten up..... It's like the new LARGE capacity harleys with hotted up engines.... going at freeway speed, and the riders just blip the throttle and the back wheel spins.... Or they start to power slide around corners... https://maps.app.goo.gl/zp9eCpKuWzjUAjDn6

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

I am not pissy about BIG FAST and very powerful Harleys, but I am concerned that the motors are now so big, so fast and so powerful that they can lift the whole bike in a wheelie and or just power slide on the back wheel with no effort..... It's your too far into the high risk category - from the beginning... This is rebuilding a J model racing engine. 1928 Harley JH 2-Cam Racing Engine - Assembly and Running - C pinned links. https://www.mgtow.tv/v/ZiyUoQ

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Davenport 2011 Board Track 1/2-Mile Main Event - Racing starts at 2:00 - C Links. https://www.mgtow.tv/v/noWFvU

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KerrAvon
KerrAvon 13 Std. vor

@Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson: Ain't that a fact. Slow Harley's aren't slow anymore and can kill a novice. I have test rode them and was keeping up with the Salesman that took the lead. 90mph on the freeway in heavy traffic with lane splitting. Little bit too much for me. I would prefer a sporty Triumph or a Kawasaki for that kind of thing.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@KerrAvon: Yeah - mechanically and combustion and fuel injection etc., they have gotten very good.... but with the OLD 80 CUI shovel heads, say if they were polished, ported, better pistons, and a decent set of TUNED LENGTH shotgun pipes, and a decent manifold, and higher flow carburettor, so it was not a racing engine, but a really good free breathing engine, well that would wind out to full power AND full speed - at say 180 Kmh.... BUT they start off idling and they slowly wind out.... The modern new bikes, they are SUCH efficient machines at converting fuel into power, and they are such BIG engines, and I don't know what is stock or hotted up any more... that basically these NEW bikes have ALL that power from idle..... AND that is the frightening thing.... Your immediately going from a stand still to wheel spin, at nearly any speed..... Wheel spin, HUGE amounts of power and FAST acceleration - it's NOT wrong, but it's immediately into the "Fly and Die" zone from the get go...... It's a bit like people who buy "Super Cars" that have like 600 - 1200 (or what ever) horse power..... That's GREAT on the Nurmburg ring, but lethal on the day to day driving in suburbia..... It's like in Australia, all these kids were building and hotting up all these big monster V8 motors and then the power, the speed - combined with youth and inexperience, and often enough, after drinking enough alcohol to impair themselves, they and their friends in the cars with them, were dying in large numbers... Now in Australia - it's ZERO blood alcohol - on the learner and probrationary licenses, and I recall that there is a power limit on their cars.... This is sort of national with cars: You cannot drive any vehicle (including modified ones) that has a power-to-kerb-weight ratio exceeding 130 kW/tonne. Nor can you drive vehicles with significant engine modifications ---------- My lovely old toyota puts out 105 Kw..... that is plenty - The speed limit is 100 Kmh. It will carry 1.3 metric tons.. And the first gear is VERY low.... It's plenty....

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@KerrAvon: This is a custom NEW V-Rod. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kp1OT9EmMpA In 10 years the new back tyres will be $50,000 each.

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