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Alt Tech Talk W/Joker, TFM, Terrence Popp and Blake

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Published on 02 Aug 2021 / In Entertainment

Join Cappy, Popp, Blake, Joker, and TFM as they discuss their forays and experiences in the world of alternative platforms, why they went where they did, and the problems and successes they had. THERE WILL BE $100 SUPERCHATS ON ACCOUNT WE WANT TO HAVE AN UNINTERRUPTED DISCUSSION
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Free_Dolphin
Free_Dolphin 1 month ago

watched this on Aaron Clarey channel on youtube, it was a great conversation between these guys, thanks for posting it here too

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Creampieminator
Creampieminator 2 months ago

so good to see so many mentors together

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Just pissed you off
Just pissed you off 2 months ago

This was a fun show to listen to even though I disagree with some of the things that joker had to say I still kind of like the dude even though he can be a bit vindictive because someone offended him on this website which is the reason why he doesn't post here because all of the same features that he likes on his locals.com, they all exist here and more.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Bitchute is a crapchute.
TFM:

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Another thing that I believe would of value, would be just straight up audio streams.

Now I know the audio streams aren't all that popular however if we want our websites or platforms that we use to continue working we need to find out how to create more ways not only for the website to make money but to allow cheaper options for people who can't afford to do video streams whether their internet shitty at home or just having a cheaper option for them to use, that the website could allow depending on what their membership status is.

now we've already gotten people that have suggested ideas such as the MP3 option which is a great feature and I absolutely love it, but what would be of justice of value is to allow streaming in audio as if it were like radio. but this would be an option for the people that have the cheaper membership when it comes to the memberships of the website,

Almost everything can be the exact same when it comes down to things like super chats or read aloud super chats That the creator of the video can view by looking at the text chat or it can be read aloud by via robotic voice like on tfm's show.

This can not only save money for the website but it'll allow users who are just straight up audio a way of doing a live stream without video in the format, maybe it can work similar to how the MP3 option works as is on this website where the screen only shows the thumbnail of the video but it plays the audio, something like this I'm sure it could work.

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Just pissed you off
Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Notice how joker explicitly stays away from this website, all because of a little spat he had against Hammer hand back when joker was on YouTube and he was censoring his own fucking audience and being criticized by hammerhand here on this website.

That would probably be the only reason why he doesn't support this website nor put his content here.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

They say no one wants to listen to more than an hour of a live stream did you even know TFM bro? LOL TFM is nothing but more than an hour in live stream, how else is it even worth the listen if not more than an hour?

Sometimes I wish pops streams were longer. But pop limits his streams to usually 2 hours sometimes he'll extend it to 30 minutes more, but he never goes to 3 hours or 4 hours.

Doesn't mean I don't watch his streams, I enjoy his dreams very much. but streams that are only an hour aren't exactly worth my time because there's only so many questions that you can ask when the time is limited which is probably why it's more engaging to be on TFM streams.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Remember stream.me remember gab remember dlive and every other one of these other platforms that TFM was on that said that they were free speech and at the end of the day it turns out they weren't free speech at all and they banned him?

that kind of thing hasn't happened on this website for TFM or anyone really. Anyone who isn't a bot of course.

And even though Dave Rubin is the guy who created locals.com, what if you post something he doesn't like?

Is it really worth backing at that point?

Because you can get banned for saying something slightly off to the left or the right or whatever, they make the claim to be a fucking free speech platform and it turns out they weren't for free speech they were only for conservatives.

I mean that is what happened with parlor, you remember that?

So I have a very hard time believing that even a website such as Odyssey will support your free speech forever because free speech is only in the eyes of the beholder.

like I get that you don't like Nazi speech or that you don't like racism but you can always block them on this website and you don't even have to fucking see their content, you pay them no fucking mind.

Besides do we know who runs odyssey?

Who the fuck are these people and why should we put our trust in them?

Is it because they make the claim that they're a free speech website?

Also why is there crypto even worth anything? Who is backing them precisely?

How is it that they can handle paying their creators with this crypto? Does anyone think of these things? Or do we just go there because we earn money? It doesn't even make sense where the money comes from.

On this website on the other hand it's clear where the money comes from, you put in your money in order to keep your content here and provide it for others, but also the creators can set up their channels in very much the same way as websites such as locals.com where they can pay all their content which is both not only supporting the website but it's also supporting the content creator, and when someone wants to donate to a creator via live stream super chat or boosting a video so it gets more views they can.

So the money actually comes from the donator. So we know where the money comes from when it comes to this website.

Also how do we know that Odyssey isn't just using a bait and switch when it comes to making money through crypto on their website? They could be easily doing this for a short period of time while they get enough of an audience, I have a guess of why they're doing it that way, and it's so people that value Free speech will come to that website instead of using YouTube where they can earn a profit in a short period of time so when the advertisers finally start noticing that the views are coming from that website instead of YouTube that that's when the advertisers will make that move, so that is my guess of why they're doing this, but I wonder how long they can sustain that cryptocurrency of theirs?

Which also suggests that same question who are these people how is it that they can afford this?

You have to question these things, because otherwise you don't know who you're supporting, what if after a few years we find out that the creators are actually the same people who own Google? What then?

I mean it's like that whole Procter and Gamble thing, people thought they were winning when they decided to purchase another product besides Gillette, without realizing that proctor and Gamble owned other products that weren't under the name of Gillette, which means you didn't really boycott Gillette because that was just the name of the brand when it was really owned by Procter and Gamble.

Also some of these other companies went woke, remember Dollar shave club? Remember they were the alternate version of Gillette that wasn't going to be Lefty lunatic company? And then they came out in the news as going woke, it was probably more like they were woke the entire time, and people supported them up until the point where they made it their main message to make you think that they were a different company who supported your values.

You still ended up supporting the commies! You still ended up supporting the woketards. You still ended up supporting those who want you to shut your mouth.

You also have to remember who do these people often send their money to? If they send it to BLM or antifa or the southern poverty law center where do these dollars really end up going? They end up going to the Democratic party the Communist party.

And that right there my friends is the bait and switch when it comes to alternate tech in almost every fucking case.

This website on the other hand hasn't done that, and we happen to know who the website owner is and what his values are and what he supports. We've seen his face. Have you seen the owner of odyssey.com?

Do you know their true values at the end of the day? Or do we just listen and believe because right now they're giving us what we want and need?

When I first learned about bitch shoot I was ecstatic because it was a free speech platform, and then I noticed that in order to use their comment section they outsourced with another website to handle the comment section using big tech company such as disquas, which ended up censoring people on the supposed Free speech website.

This website the feature for the comments is built into the website it's not outsourced to some company you don't trust.

Now obviously, this website is not perfect it still gets improved every once in awhile and sometimes that can break down the site for a short period of time, but eventually it gets better. And our support directly supports us.

If this website is successful, then we are successful, and that's the only way to keep everything working.

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Just pissed you off
Just pissed you off 2 months ago

The only problem that I see with joker when it comes down to his altec idea is he goes with a website locals.com or whatever and that's where he's putting the majority of his content, now I get it, I understand that concept completely, however when it comes down to finding a variety of content and content providers it makes more sense to join a website such as this one where you can find not only your favorite Creator but you can find a vast majority in a variety of channels that you wouldn't likely find say onlocals.com

which means you don't have to go to locals.com and watch one creator and then come over to mgtow tv and watch multiple creators putting their content on one platform.

So this is where I see that joker is wrong but that's his choice and he's going to stick to that which is understandable, but the unfortunate thing is it prevents his audience from seeing any other content besides his stuff so he's kind of doing the vast majority of mgtow or the vast majority of men a disservice by only going to his content which prevents them from seeing any other content but his own, kind of selfish if you ask me.

But at the same time he really should be supporting websites such as this because this web this website is less likely to censor him and prevent him from making any money into the future, and he would be supporting himself and the website that will keep him running independently.

Locals.com we have no idea who owns their website we have no idea of what their values are we have no idea if they're just using you until they ban you eventually, here on this website we know it's owned by a man going his own way we know that he supports free speech we know that he will allow our content and then some, so it makes more sense to join a website such as this rather than locals.com who you have no idea who owns it you have no idea of their values and you have no idea whether they'll kick you off of their Network at any time because you said something they didn't like.

They might be a good company for now, but that could change in the future when they finally have earned plenty of money from you and they're done supporting your ass, and that is why I don't trust any alternative tech when it comes down to these websites that say they're free speech and end up not being free speech and the closest thing to free speech is websites that have to do with the controversial topics such as what mgtow talk about.

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Just pissed you off
Just pissed you off 2 months ago

It's funny to think that essentially we are going our own way to another platform. and that's what big tech is doing to everyone they don't like everyone they disagree with they're trying to shut them down prevent them from making any money prevent them from anything, so the only thing you can do is go your own way to another website who will support your free speech.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Yeah pretty much just don't join the channels that have to do with racism or Nazism because they're probably honey pots anyway, so you're better off just doing your own thing stop following these idiots that are really just trying to get the site in trouble in some way and are probably honey pots that will be used to go after you on this website.

I personally just block them and forget them, but unfortunately a lot of these channels they get a fuck ton of views and that makes you wonder whether they are vast majority racist or vast majority Nazi or if people are just interested in seeing these videos.

but again on this website unlike YouTube we actually have a block button, you don't have to see that content if you don't want to it was the same on Twitter and Facebook and yet nobody seem to fucking take responsibility and use those features for themselves, it was like people got incredibly fucking lazy and couldn't take responsibility for their own eyes.

Whatever the content may be you can always block it you don't have to see shit from that person I remember seeing a comment from a guy who didn't like sandman's videos because in his thumbnails he puts close to pornographic pictures in his thumbnails, and then another dude told him just block him you will never see their videos ever again and he followed that advice and he's been better for it since.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

What joker is explaining is pretty much why it's probably better to do your videos on altec, sure when it comes to alternative tech you end up having to pay money just to use their service because they can't afford to do shit for free.

But if you look at it from the perspective of $10 a month or $5 a month on this website for example, if you were doing live streams for $10 a month or even $20 a month and you got your entire audience from YouTube or at least a certain portion of them watching your live stream here you would make that money back in no time because you were willing to pay that price and all donations are split 50/50 between the website and channel that they're donating to.

So in a sense you're getting a pretty damn good deal with this concept.

And you still have free speech which is probably the most important thing when it comes down to furthering your popularity into the future.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Damn, I'm really loving this new MP3 option, it's so user friendly and easy to use, most of the time this website has issues playing videos with my cell phone.

Usually the videos end up stopping at random while they're being played and end up having you to refresh the goddamn page just to play it but then you have to find your place which is bloody annoying. But this works fucking fantastic because it never gets interrupted and never stops working.

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Just pissed you off 2 months ago

Thanks for mirroring dude, idk why TFM or Poop didn't mirror this themselves or at least do a live stream.

So I'm glad you at least mirrored it for us all.

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eldrazi317
eldrazi317 2 months ago

This site says that the sec is trying to limit crypto decentralization. It’s also a petition, but not entirely sure on it.

https://www.change.org/p/crypt....ocurrency-is-not-a-c

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 months ago

When TFM is talking about the file sizes of uploading his shows, when I first did this even with small file sizes with my slow-ass internet, I couldn't upload his shows they were each at least 300 to 400 megabytes which was incredibly slow on my internet and someone else introduced me to hand brake and told me that I can cut that size in half if not more with how I Am brake works. I was able to lower almost every show to at least 100 megabytes in the shorter shows to maybe under 75 megabytes.

I never upload anything over a gig The the highest I have ever done on my own internet what's 500 megabytes, I don't think I'll ever go over that because it'll just take too long and it'll end with the video failing so I have to reduce the quality as much as possible.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 2 months ago

I thought maybe TFM would mirror this or at least do his own live stream of it.

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Just pissed you off
Just pissed you off 2 months ago

That would have been preferred, so I'm glad you mirrored it at least. So thanks for doing this service.

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AvyScottAndFlower
AvyScottAndFlower 2 months ago

GREAT stream

Man, this community is THE BEST!
Cheers

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