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Hammerhand
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Published on 19 Feb 2021 / In People & Blogs

This type of nonsense has to stop immediately. MGTOW do NOT censor one another on channels made BY MEN for men.

Money, status and sway are interfering with the message of male sovereignty. Being silenced on a channel FOR MEN is a one way to ticket to the bottom of the pile.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Since the world has a seemingly endless supply of spastic retard moderators, there are times to walk away and let them drown in their own shit, and there are times to stand your ground and kick them in the balls., and then leave them to drown in their own shit.

Just saying.

In my write up VVVVVV below, SO many thousands of idiots in online AA and NA meetings - have tried this shit on - and because there is NO principles or ethics in their antics - it's just their crazy, crazy, crazy crap - they end up killing themselves.

And the thing they never get is that it's not me that they are their own number one enemy, and unless they deal with their own issues and more or less ignore all the cheap dram, they are the ones going to bring themselves undone....

The men make up around 60% of the meetings and the women make up 30% of the meetings - so your supposed to pick boy, girl, boy girl......

I was asked to chair a real world meeting, and I said fuck this while chairing a meeting, and picked them first come, first served.....

A great sage, lesbian man hater and drug councillor, went spastic about this and stormed out of the meeting - "Come on girls" - to her little entourage, "WE are not putting up with this shit!" and out she and her accolytes stormed....

2 weeks later the great sage, lesbian man hater and drug councillor, was sitting in an alley way banging up heroin...

LOL


I have outlived thousands of cunts like her....

In the real world and in online meetings......

I think sometimes though, you gotta just side step the arseholes, and with or without the infinite compassion of the Bhudda, leave them to destroy themselves and everyone and every thing around them, until the day comes that they do themselves in, or get done in.

And yet, in the area I live in, they bad mouth me like all fuck behind my back, most of the adults are idiots and arseholes, their kids are doing drugs and killing themselves and each other...

According to the local idiots, I am the biggest cunt on the face of the earth, and they are the ones who are doing drugs like gossip and meth and putting ropes around their own necks.

And the stupid adults are raising stupid children, who grow up to be stupid adults.....

Not a fucking grain of integrity amongst them.

I even opened up an AA meeting here, and ran that for like 5 years.....

The first "good christian types" I approached to get a hall to rent, well they were doing everything they could to stop me from getting a venue - the main protagonist was a fucking arsehole of a community nurse. That bitch was so fucking crazy that he son took drugs and got disappeared... and all the other cunts that sided with her, and the general under currents of small town bullshit, their kids were all into drugs, and quite a few have suicided, and NOT one person in like 5 years ever came to the meetings....

I stayed drug free...

I am still going, and all the fucktards of adults are going to each others funerals and each others kids funerals....

But they are investing in a horse racing track (drugs / gambling / gossip and legal piss ups) and they all play sports (drugs / gambling / gossip and legal piss ups) and the endemic incrowd bullshit (drugs / gambling / gossip and legal piss ups), well why would anyone in their right mind want to fit in or feel upset that they don't include you in their crawly incrowd shit - not me. LOL

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Tholoted
Tholoted 11 days ago

I AM Making a Good Salary from Home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing, under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now it's my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone. go to home media tech tab for more detail reinforce your heart...........www.news701.com

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@Tholoted: Fuck off spammer.

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SithKing
SithKing 8 days ago

@Tholoted: them small hats have infiltrated this site hard hes just a kike trying to make money but fk him

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James1225
James1225 15 days ago

Those whom censor thought by denial of free speech are the most despicable of creatures. Those whom cannibalizes their progenitors deserve exorcism and Isolation. These vermin prey upon the pain of men to enrich their pockets and validate their narcissistic personalities. Lead, follow, or get out of the way, drive on hard men.

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Tholoted
Tholoted 11 days ago

I AM Making a Good Salary from Home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing, under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now it's my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone. go to home media tech tab for more detail reinforce your heart...........www.news701.com

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johnsmith
johnsmith 15 days ago

nice jacket

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Tholoted
Tholoted 11 days ago

I AM Making a Good Salary from Home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing, under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now it's my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone. go to home media tech tab for more detail reinforce your heart...........www.news701.com

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Generationless
Generationless 15 days ago

Hammer, I knew you were talking about some CGA before you mentioned it. I've noticed lately him sometimes belittling, and laughing at, guys that are still blue and purple pilled in their actions. Also saying you need to pay superchat otherwise I will not listen, along with "until the likes increase I'm going to have to do a commercial". CGA has got some great info, and well thought out points, but whipping, talking down to, and brow-beating your audience is not the way to keep your message flowing. There are a few of his vids that have felt like a cold slap.
Like many of us, he was a blue pilled SIMP once too. His "holier than thou" shit needs to be curtailed.

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Hammerhand
Hammerhand 15 days ago

Yeah.....he pulls that bullshit from Samuels, Obsidian etc. Not that its bad, its just weird.

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anonmachina
anonmachina 14 days ago

I found it troubling (but not surprising), that CGA became more condescending with equally revelations of his religious belief (Christianity). It appears that the manosphere has been infiltrated by content creators that are covertly attempting to intertwine Chriatian-Conservative beliefs into MGTOW, the end result being the, 'holier-than-thou' attitude. I am an Atheist, I am irreligious, I sm anti-religious, but, foremost, I am an individual whom prefers harmony in a community above all things. Thus, I do not impose--let alone, exhibit--my lack of belief unless asked (this post being a rare exception due to related subject matter). If you watched many of CGA videos the past three months, the association between his increasing exhibition of his religious belief AND his 'holier-than-thou' attitude is uncanny. I prefer content creators that know how to present content impartially. (Of course, to date, according to some viewers, Hammerhand is a cross between a Christian and a NAZI, but that is subject for another time. That was a joke, Hammerhand).

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Do you want to know a really interesting thing.... I have crawled out of the absolute depths of deprivation, and have recently clocked over 32 years drug free... and don't for fucks sake pile on the congratulations - because it's a case of either swim for your life out of the crashing waves, or drown.

ANYWAY - I saw that AA and NA was full of retarded, lazy, "know it all - know fuck all" cunts. AND by the time I got to 21 years drug free, I noticed that there was almost no one left, of or around my vintage..... In a simple sense, I calculated out that for every 76,000 people who come to "The Meetings" there was only ONE of me. I back calculated that the based upon the national and international sales of the "Welcome to AA" tokens / key rings / chips to the groups, which they give away to the new comers..... AND the purchases of long term sorber / drug free medallions by the groups / individuals, that the attrition or relapse / churn rates, were basically fairly horrendous, and that most people were full of shit..... I don't mean that just because they have been religiously attending their 12 step group meetings.... I mean it in the sense that ones life is a business, and if people are not prepared to attend to managing that buisness - then it's a shoddy operation at best and a bankrupt and out of business concern at the worst.

So for eveyone of me, that are some 150,000 people who never made it this far, and this is out of ALL the people who actually made it to AA etc.... Most never do.

I don't uphold AA or the people in it as shining examples of mental health, or Eienstein grades of intelligence, or as the most committed to getting off their arses and putting in the effort to improve themselves, improve their lives and to get shit done.

I have whittled this down to "Where are the NECESSARY opportunities for improvement?"

And yet all the fucking retards who fail along the way, ALSO are in and are running their own fucking spastic shit shows of "online meetings".

None of them ever go, "Oh Amazing Shane, Great Wise Sage, Equal of All Heaven", no they sit on their arses, they make NO effort to connect, and NONE of them want to put in the effort, to develop a relationship with me, AND to then put in the hard work....

BUT - there are a fucking heap of nasty spastic cunts, who will do everything they can to censor me, silence me, boot me from the meetings etc.....

I don't conform to their "Crazy, Crazy, Crazy" fucking crap, and they all most all end up dead - by their own hand.



I have learned though, that you really have to get your own endorsement, instead of seeking the approval of others.


I have gotten really good at kicking these fuckers in the nuts with facts. I copy paste this kind of material in the online meetings. Of course all the drug fucked idiots with shit for brains, start screeching "He is the AA or NA anti christ - boot him from the meeting". However IF the AA relapse rate is the most significant issue for all people coming to AA, and they do it by their own hand, then why is it a taboo subject? It's a taboo subject - only to the idiots who are full of shit and who ARE going to relapse and die....

I was the first to do the research globally on the sales of drug free / sobriety time tokens and medallions, through the fellowships.... and after doing the numbers, I passed this onto Patrick, who engaged in further research, added his skills in statistics and number crunching, and it's turned out pretty good.

You can't really keep dead accurate stats on people who join AA (etc) and their reasons for leaving such as relapse, suicide, going into therapy, or the working on getting their shit together by other means....

But you can track the numbers, of the sales of "Welcome to AA" (or similar) chips and key rings that the groups buy to give to the new comers, then the 3 month, 6 month, 9 months sober or what ever chips, then the 1 year sober, and to speed this up, to go 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, etc... AND the numbers go like this.

1000 newcomers.

50 x 1 year sober medallions.

16 x 5 year sober medallions.

12 x 10 year sober medallions.

5 x 15 year sober medallions.

1.5 x 20 year sober medallions.

0.38 x 25 year sober medallions. (or you start off with 10,000 people just to get 3 people clocking over 25 years sober)

0.16 x 30 year sober medallions.

And for me, at 32 years sober / drug free there are 0.033 x 32 year sober medallions. Multipliying 1000 x 10 x 10 x 10 to increase the sample size and bring the sales up to whole numbers... or 33 x 32 year sober medallions, you would need to start off with not 10,000, not 100,000, but 1,000,000 people who would almost all dissappear, to still have enough left over to make 32 years sober and buy the medallions...

Like the point is that there is NOT any real difference between say 10,000 and 10,002, but there is a HUGE difference between 10,000 AND 2.

This is where the real value of tracking the sales figures lie.....

It's not an absolute issue of accuracy. The issue is of variation.




This is what I post in the online meetings..

I have a topic. The AA relapse rate.

Version 01 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I contributed this information to Patrick (Agent Orange) and these are my words on his website:

What is the REAL A.A. success rate?
Out of each 1000 newcomers to A.A., how many will pick up a one-year sobriety medallion a year later? Or ever?
And how many will get their 2-year, and 5-year, and 10-year coins?
How about 11 years and 21 years?

HINT: the answers are [here] and [here] and [here].

https://web.archive.org/web/20....160729115432/http://

https://web.archive.org/web/20....161020131749/https:/

https://web.archive.org/web/20....160807155912/http://

Scroll down the "coins" link for this table with this reference.

"I recalculated the numbers based on the available information, which is that only 5% of the newcomers get 1-year coins. That 5% number comes from everybody from Bill Wilson's secretary Nell Wing, to Lois Wilson's secretary Francis Hartigan, to the Chairman of the Australian A.A. service organization. And that is also the success rate that Dr. George E. Vaillant got. So that is a good starting point for scaling the numbers."




Version 02 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Lets talk about the AA relapse rate.

Professor (and Doctor) George E. Vaillant of Harvard University was a Non-alcoholic — Class A — member of the Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc. (AAWS) Board of Trustees, proved through extensive research that AA is worse than no treatment.

https://web.archive.org/web/20....160727092723/http://
https://web.archive.org/web/20....161020131749/https:/



So the I don't give too much of a fuck about retard arsehole moderators.....

Let them steal enough rope, from enough people, and they will hang themselves.

I am quite willing to kick them in the guts on the way past, to have a go at them and expose these mind game plying shits for what they are..

I bite their heads off in online meetings, and then Zoom proved to be too much of a security risk with the fucktards hacking that....

I don't go to real world meetings much any more., because I have so much fucking contempt for the general dishonesty of people in AA and NA. Sure they are as honest as they can be, and not as honest as they need to be.

Having been around for some 45 or 46 years since I made the decision to get sober and get my life on track, with the LONG TERM SOBER numbers, IF I went to a meeting with 20 people in it, then based upon the sales figures of medallions and what knot, if out of 1000 people only 12 people out of the 1000 are still around to pick up a 10 year sober medallion, then I am basically looking at a room full of people who are full of shit. Almost all of them will go back out using, and die.

I mean that story is confirmed by most of the people who work in and run rehabs.... "Of all the people here today (25 of them), in 5 years time, almost all of you are going to be back out using and or dead. There might be ONE of you still sober." That sort of story is common place in rehabs.

So the nasty little classless fucktards pulling the censure motions on people, they have issues, and if they don't deal with them, they will die from them.

I have seen them bring themselves undone, SO many times.... So fuck them. Confront them, expose them and stand up for yourself. Then see how they handle it.... They are like cock roaches when the kitchen light comes on.


So good one Hammer Hand. Well Played. Well Spoken.

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anonmachina
anonmachina 15 days ago

'..by the time I got to 21 years drug free, I noticed that there was almost no one left, of or around my vintage.....'. I am familiar with such atrocity. And....congratulations. No, really. (34 years, this past JAN03).

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anonmachina
anonmachina 15 days ago

I am concerned with one aspect of your perspective on community. Personally, I remind myself--daily--that many will engage, many will devolve, many will be lost. Nonetheless, I provide them with an example of how to live, simply by my manner of living, and nothing more. I advise you consider the same. You may be surprised by what impact that can have on individuals observing you.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

the only reason why there is need for mods is because of how youtube either out right deletes channels or censors them, if ppl were smart, they would stream to both platforms but on youtube all they need to do is disable the chat and direct ppl here on this website where they can use the chat, where this website doesn't care about censorship as ppl can say anything they want and the site owner doesn't give a shit.

soon the super chats will be fully functional and more folks will donate through this website instead of youtube where they delete channels for this kind of dumb shit.

and the greatest news is, there will be no need for mods anymore, because this website doesn't give a shit about censorship.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

that's youtube live streaming for you.

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Mademyownway
Mademyownway 15 days ago

I stopped viewing and unsubscribed to many of these BS channels. These guys have forgotten who made them. Does not help there a lot of cucks out there still believing the BS these money whores are spreading.
GA, Joker just to name a few. Just doing what they are to keep the money flowing. F'in POS.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

they do it because it's youtube where they could easily get an strike on their channel if they allow ppl to say anything, but i will admit because of this nonsense that youtube enforces, that's why shit like this exists. i was listening to an podcast done by the coach and some dude went and payed for the chat and his username was offensive and because everyone is so afraid of youtube censorship, his mods banned the guy, the man payed to get in. however at the same time with that same standard, this is also an tact that guys who want to shut down channels will participate in. so they either spam the chat with as many offensive words and things to say or they have an offensive user name, and then they go into another account and complain to the website that that this user on this channel said some mean things, and then the channel gets taken down or deleted because of that kind of BS. so not everyone who is in the chat is mgtow, some of these ppl are asshats who are trying to get the channel shut down by any means, and if that means they have to pay to get in, they will.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

however if they were smart they would stream to both youtube and mgtowtv and disable youtube chat making ppl move to mgtowtv and send in their super chats, our website owner doesn't give a flying fuck what ppl say in the comments section, and there is no need to censore folks either. so they just need to stream on both platforms and disable the live chat on youtube to keep the asshats out and prevent them from causing issues on the channel.

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anonmachina
anonmachina 14 days ago

@KEEPER: '.. was listening to an podcast done by the coach and some dude went and payed for the chat and his username was offensive and because everyone is so afraid of youtube censorship, his mods banned the guy..'. I am now motivated to change my name to, Stahlhelm. Just because.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 14 days ago

@anonmachina: lol yeah, i listened to that same stream, the guy named him self nigger 3 times in an row, ppl do this so they can report on themselves to youtube to get the channel owner shut down. it's what they did to TFM on Dlive to get him booted. it's a shitty tactic that simply doesn't need to happen if they disabled the chat on youtube and allow it on another like this website. then there is no need for mods to handle things.

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Tholoted
Tholoted 11 days ago

I AM Making a Good Salary from Home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing, under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now it's my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone. go to home media tech tab for more detail reinforce your heart...........www.news701.com

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TheManInside
TheManInside 15 days ago

That's true. I've walked away from a few pretenders.
I see no point for men to point fingers at other men. Be it on asstube against each other, or trashing incels, crapping on men who don't know better (we've all been there, don't do that shit), or whatever.
The problem I see with the subject of this video is "if you want me to say that, you gonna have to pay me more than 5$", "all of you out here getting things for free, not contributing"...
Hammer, this I'm saying to you, MGTOW is not this. Go your own way and don't give a shit about what others do. If people can't see what's being fed to them, it's their problem. Abba and Preach have a great video showing a "red piller" vomiting Homo di tomati words. That's what they get, being ridiculous for everyone to see and make fun of them.

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Hammerhand
Hammerhand 15 days ago

We HAVE to care to some degree. We simply must. Letting messaging like this go unchallenged is a failing. A big one.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

@Hammerhand: Yeah it's like if the Antifa and Black Lying Maggot rioters were shot on sight, there would not have been a whole heap of cities burned up....

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TheManInside
TheManInside 15 days ago

@Hammerhand: I understand your point, I also see what's happening. I would say most came from a good (bad for them) place, but once the money started coming in, they saw the business opportunity and ran with it. I don't see it as a problem, I don't like it when they shame and beg, but I'm not a father to anyone. This is not saying you're wrong, you're not, and there's a lot more who make money from unaware men, but is that MGTOW?

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Tholoted
Tholoted 11 days ago

@TheManInside: I AM Making a Good Salary from Home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing, under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now it's my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone. go to home media tech tab for more detail reinforce your heart...........www.news701.com

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Councilof1
Councilof1 15 days ago

I was a mod on game server back in the mid to late 00's. Some people can't handle being given some power and authority. It goes to their heads. When we confronted one mod he went off the rails and deleted all the files from the server. It was insane took a day to fix the mess he created. Just crazy. You have to police your mods strictly.

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

or cut the need for them out, by streaming to 2 platforms and disabling youtube chat so ppl who want to use the chat features can come here instead. on youtube ppl are just feeding the beast that further censors them which is why there are mods in the first place, cut youtube out of that deal and send your users to this website, no need for mods because we are free to say anything we damn well please, and soon the feature of the text from donations will show up on the screen. sometimes you have to create work arounds when dealing with an problem.

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for_Archangel Liberation_Y

I suppose I am able to understand the MOD's behavior. Michael Bect, the AechAngel, would have called these ''boys'' our and labeled them as Gynocentric Drones. As the MOD's affect this, they thoughtlessly serve the guidelines of the Vaginocracy. I miss that guy, Beck. I don't think he ever understood how " GREAT " he really was.

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for_Archangel Liberation_Y

It is all designed to belittle, shame, brow-beat, and, devalue us as genitically Y chromosome.\

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KEEPER
KEEPER 15 days ago

the mods don't need to exist, all the streamer needs to do is live stream to 3 platforms and disable youtubes chat feature forcing folks to use this websites live chat where we don't censor and the channel owner doesn't have to get in deep shit with youtube because of the comments showing up. because it's on another website.

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Shadow Monk
Shadow Monk 15 days ago

But anyway very good point. We should never take the credit for ourselves from the people who helped build he up but rather we should share that credit, Never block those for no other good reason unless they have a problem with you and constantly go at you harassing or belittling you at every turn based off your opinion they don’t like or the content you make. Just like me having to deal with serious jackasses like @MRAhole who’s constantly judgmental and attacks me and belittles me as well as putting words into my mouth and accuses me of X,Y,or,Z whenever I argued with him all because he hates my guts based on my content and opinion regarding spirituality and politics.

Having a different opinion is fine and even sharing ones disagreements is okay, Although it’s not acceptable for someone to constantly go after and attack someone based on their opinion that doesn’t align with theirs.

MRAhole kept going after me and it was the last straw when he thought that he could attack me however much he wanted but thought I wasn’t allowed to have an opinion based on our arguments. So I knew that he was just a self loathed narcissistic know it all who cares more about his ego more then himself.

Never the less only block someone if they become a real issue and cause to many problems where instead of arguing they escalate things into a full our flame war. Thus I only blocked him because I Concluded that people like MRAhole wouldn’t stop his borderline attacks instead of normal disagreements + he couldn’t be reasoned with. And that’s okay:

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Doggk
Doggk 15 days ago

You're not alone he did the same thing with me, it didn't last very long.. I blocked that scumbag a long time ago.. Never heard anything again ! Just don't allow them to play their games with you ! There's plenty of dudes like him on the platform and the best way with them is to show that you're defending your territory, that there are rules to respect in order to maintain a correct balance between each other and that their games won't work with you.. Once they understand it's not going to work with you, so they'll behave or they will attack other subscribers on your channel in the comment sections most of the time.. It's always the same scenario ! They're so predictable so you already know how things will turn.. And after a while you'll become less tolerant to such guys and block them after their second attempt ! They have no tolerance and respect for your position so you shouldn't tolerate their position..

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Shadow Monk
Shadow Monk 15 days ago

@Doggk: Seriously my my subscribers too. Oh no nobody should ever attack my audience, Thanks for pointing that out.

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Doggk
Doggk 14 days ago

@Shadow Monk: You're welcome the key to protect ourselves is to help each other ! And yup this is how they work.. If they can't bully you, they will bully your audience in your comment section, or try to turn them against you ! knowing that it's disrespectful to you and just to piss you off! It happened to me several times that's why I said that after a while you become less tolerant because you already know things will turn south with such individuals.. They have nothing to lose because they're not creators.. They are destroyers ! Their purpose in life is to destroy what others build.. Like these lost kids when we were at school.. They saw that you build a beautiful sand castle with your friends, and they become jealous, jump on it to destroy it just to piss you off.. That's what gives them their kick in life..

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edud_eeffoc
edud_eeffoc 15 days ago

ITE, it all boils down to this. Regardless of all this content and 'creators'...MGTOW is an INDIVIDUAL thing. At its core, MGTOW is NOT content. It is NOT a movement. It is an INDIVIDUAL choice about how a man chooses to live. Single vs. legally connected to a woman. If the 'community' starts 'censuring or canceling' members voices in order to make money, then it's no different than conservatives being kicked off platforms for simply expressing conservative points of view and values. It is thought control and speech control through 'community guidelines'. Annnnd...where have we heard that before? Ir's all social 'engineering'.

If the trend continues, MGTOW men need to simply do what the name says: go their own way. Walk away from the 'community' and focus on their individual selves. Social 'engineering' is a virus. In fact, during this current plandemic, I would argue social engineering is the main thing happening. People being conditioned to accept government control. Wear a mask. Get a vaccination. Not attend church without government permission and guidelines. To hell with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Do what you are told. That, my friends, goes against everything MTGOW is about. IMO.

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Life_N_Times_of_Shane_T_Hanson

Naaaaa there are times to walk away and let them drown in their own shit, and there are times to stand your ground and kick them in the balls., and then leave them to drown in their own shit.

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Shadow Monk
Shadow Monk 15 days ago

Seriously that’s unacceptable.

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